This isn't just the case in nationalist scene, but you are touching cultural norms.
Europeans and others still live real lives. Americans live online persona's.
Any attempt to gather people into organizations that demanded real responsibility, connection, and action that I have built have failed, unfortunately. It was hard lessons to learn that Americans are just Hollywood actors in their own lives acting in a ridiculous film.
Lots of big words and flexing online, but almost nothing of substance in the real world.
There is a lot of truth to this article. I think British humour tops the league so the Europeans and Americans need to consider tapping into that natural talent.
"Groups that...met face-to-face...and learned how to operate in the real world created bonds." That's the essence of the difference, right there in a nutshell. In the US, every white nationalist is a voice crying out in the wilderness. Other than attending an American Renaissance conference a few years ago, I have met no one. To be fair, most guys here are scared shitless, and not without reason. We need to do something about that.
Active clubs and Patriot Front will surprise you then. There’s a reason Rundo mentioned them in his article as the only examples of American nationalists worth interacting with.
Without going down the rabbit-hole, this was the burgeoning process in the early 80s, especially in California, and some of the big Eastern Cities like Chicago.
You are correct, it is the defining momentum of a social understanding, extended to hundreds of families as a ‘way of life’. Counter-culture, like counter-revolution (of which We are now a part of ) becomes a social movement, or it dies.
Performative personalities are, or can be a bane, simply because ‘fighters’ are, by definition, focused on a small target; some break free, but are not trusted by the mass, because their vision sees much farther than the average. Some have succeeded locally, but I have only witnessed one cohort built, and that was in North Carolina, for roughly a five year period. Sadly, the rest of the country did not see the value.
I am glad that you stated these facts, in the way you did - from personal experience - because these things are being done, you just don’t hear much about them, unless one travels. Nevertheless, this has always been the way forward.
I like liquor, I am not shitting on liquor. I am shitting on PB culture, which was just drink, do coke, fuck women (or men), and fight antifa. That was it. Drinking is fine, but that cannot be the basis of a movement. We are not in the beerhalls of 1920’s Germany.
Well I agree but it’s much harder for women. We don’t have clubs lol. I have gotten a few friends to go far more racialist. I’ve had long term nationalist female friends I’ve met up with over the last decade and a half every few years. Lots of more conservative friends are racialists.
Intentional communities seem like an amazing idea and it’s nice that some are popping up across the US.
I’ve considered starting a book club locally but don’t know if that would actually find more similar women.
Most women I know in this movement were brought in by their husbands or boyfriends. What is required on that front is a team of dedicated women who are willing to build something like the Daughters of the Conferacy or the Revolution, but instead of being solely focused on the past, they are focused on the present and the future. I think that the Return To The Land women are good, and the Asatru Folk Assembly also has women’s groups, but these are very small and insular.
Things have changed somewhat in the past 7 years, but yknow, everyone has different views of things. You are definitely always free to come visit as a non-member.
I am from the Bay Area originally and grew up fighting with primitives and saw my dad fighting them pretty much my entire childhood because he’s a giant and they tend to target or become antagonistic with really masculine white men. I became racially aware in early adulthood and started running right wing anti Islam pages online because of what was happening in Europe. Then I realized similarities here. Ive been around for a long time and though I have children with someone right wing it was long after I came to these positions myself. We decided to move to a more right wing state but it’s very Christian. We co parent our kids here and have less of those types of social connections. Considering more something like OR if I join a group but big doubt they have lots of people locally.
I’m considering starting some type of moms European culture and history club locally to try to meet more.
People in America were all wrapped up in TV cultural indoctrination when I was young where browns got injected into everything to keep whites from building any racial identity or solidarity. It's a socially engineered culture, not organic, and that's why you never know who to trust. The bonds are weak, the people are fake and everything is designed to keep people isolated and divided.
By contrast, in Europe everyone is White and just happy to bond and share common cause which in America is branded conspiracy and gang activity and is reason enough for the FBI to shake you down. You don't have to break laws. They treat you like drug running criminals just for being part of a small active group and are happy to ruin your life, make you lose your livelihood and become socially isolated for just daring to make political statements.
ZOG is a beast from hell and if you are pro-White you will be it's target. To fight for your people requires courage and determination. Glad to hear this account of the Euro-American contrast because we all need to unite to defeat this monster killing the West.
Thank you for your interest and observations. I too lived in Europe for five years. I was principally a revisionist interested in helping Germans. I also like the identitarian movement. I don't consider myself fascist, however. I am clinging onto a classical definition of being left without all the kookinees that Intel has turned it into. Since for you fascism is a valuable and positive thing, perhaps you can tell me what those features are. I am pretty extreme into conspiracy and my understanding is that fascism and communism, which were the archytipal European antipodes during World War II, are actually funded by the same people, an example of the classical controlled opposition dialectic. You may not see it that way, but that's fine. I am for the preservation and prospering of all the European peoples and people of European heritage throughout what is known as the West. Our main problem I think is international Jewry has basically taken the reins of power of all of our nations. I would like to abandon using words like left and right because I think they are polarizing. Richard Spencer, I'm pretty sure, was a mole in the alt-right movement. I can send you more information on that if you'd like. The Patriot front is definitely an FBI manufactured group. Again, thank you for your article. Your observations about Americans being focused on online activities rather than building a subculture I think is you're strongest point. I'm currently in Milwaukee and I have been battling what I call the fake left here.
Yup.
This isn't just the case in nationalist scene, but you are touching cultural norms.
Europeans and others still live real lives. Americans live online persona's.
Any attempt to gather people into organizations that demanded real responsibility, connection, and action that I have built have failed, unfortunately. It was hard lessons to learn that Americans are just Hollywood actors in their own lives acting in a ridiculous film.
Lots of big words and flexing online, but almost nothing of substance in the real world.
There is a lot of truth to this article. I think British humour tops the league so the Europeans and Americans need to consider tapping into that natural talent.
"Groups that...met face-to-face...and learned how to operate in the real world created bonds." That's the essence of the difference, right there in a nutshell. In the US, every white nationalist is a voice crying out in the wilderness. Other than attending an American Renaissance conference a few years ago, I have met no one. To be fair, most guys here are scared shitless, and not without reason. We need to do something about that.
Have you tried an Active Club? They’re pretty much everywhere in the states now.
Active clubs and Patriot Front will surprise you then. There’s a reason Rundo mentioned them in his article as the only examples of American nationalists worth interacting with.
Nailed it.
Without going down the rabbit-hole, this was the burgeoning process in the early 80s, especially in California, and some of the big Eastern Cities like Chicago.
You are correct, it is the defining momentum of a social understanding, extended to hundreds of families as a ‘way of life’. Counter-culture, like counter-revolution (of which We are now a part of ) becomes a social movement, or it dies.
Performative personalities are, or can be a bane, simply because ‘fighters’ are, by definition, focused on a small target; some break free, but are not trusted by the mass, because their vision sees much farther than the average. Some have succeeded locally, but I have only witnessed one cohort built, and that was in North Carolina, for roughly a five year period. Sadly, the rest of the country did not see the value.
I am glad that you stated these facts, in the way you did - from personal experience - because these things are being done, you just don’t hear much about them, unless one travels. Nevertheless, this has always been the way forward.
Beautiful and very very well said . The USA doesn’t t really have soccer/football ultra clubs like the Uk /Europe .
I think the proud boys tried thus once but got broken up by the usual suspects .
Maybe ice hockey fan clubs could work . Sadly , basketball and tackle football are now anti White - negro worshiping with mud sharks etc
active clubs are another option to be embraced and pushed.
the proud boys spent too much time drinking and doing coke to really amount to anything
IMO drinking beer is ok - nationalists did drinking and fighting Reds 100 years ago in Europe - it worked well
I like liquor, I am not shitting on liquor. I am shitting on PB culture, which was just drink, do coke, fuck women (or men), and fight antifa. That was it. Drinking is fine, but that cannot be the basis of a movement. We are not in the beerhalls of 1920’s Germany.
Agreed and well said . Why not start nationalist hiking and conservation clubs that do practical conservation , hiking physical fitness ?
leftists /Js have been successfully co-opting all environmentalist organizations such as the Sierra Club , Green Peace - why not do it right ?
Become the local leaders in zero plastic - lobby big box stores to stop selling plastic bottles of water .
AH GrandDad was a great environmentalist and animal lover
That could be us
Yes try banning beer from the Brits and Germans that will kickstart the revolt haha🤣
Well I agree but it’s much harder for women. We don’t have clubs lol. I have gotten a few friends to go far more racialist. I’ve had long term nationalist female friends I’ve met up with over the last decade and a half every few years. Lots of more conservative friends are racialists.
Intentional communities seem like an amazing idea and it’s nice that some are popping up across the US.
I’ve considered starting a book club locally but don’t know if that would actually find more similar women.
Most women I know in this movement were brought in by their husbands or boyfriends. What is required on that front is a team of dedicated women who are willing to build something like the Daughters of the Conferacy or the Revolution, but instead of being solely focused on the past, they are focused on the present and the future. I think that the Return To The Land women are good, and the Asatru Folk Assembly also has women’s groups, but these are very small and insular.
If white western women don't become white ethno-nationalists their children will be doomed to a life of brutal savagery or death.
Their very survival is at stake.
Oh and I’ve been to a few AFA events about 7 years ago. Thanks for the invite and the info!
Things have changed somewhat in the past 7 years, but yknow, everyone has different views of things. You are definitely always free to come visit as a non-member.
Thanks! I am still friends with a few women from there. It’s cool you guys got new Hof’s.
I am from the Bay Area originally and grew up fighting with primitives and saw my dad fighting them pretty much my entire childhood because he’s a giant and they tend to target or become antagonistic with really masculine white men. I became racially aware in early adulthood and started running right wing anti Islam pages online because of what was happening in Europe. Then I realized similarities here. Ive been around for a long time and though I have children with someone right wing it was long after I came to these positions myself. We decided to move to a more right wing state but it’s very Christian. We co parent our kids here and have less of those types of social connections. Considering more something like OR if I join a group but big doubt they have lots of people locally.
I’m considering starting some type of moms European culture and history club locally to try to meet more.
Lesson from MCs...
Men are the MC, women are the social club. They work together, but never crossover.
People in America were all wrapped up in TV cultural indoctrination when I was young where browns got injected into everything to keep whites from building any racial identity or solidarity. It's a socially engineered culture, not organic, and that's why you never know who to trust. The bonds are weak, the people are fake and everything is designed to keep people isolated and divided.
By contrast, in Europe everyone is White and just happy to bond and share common cause which in America is branded conspiracy and gang activity and is reason enough for the FBI to shake you down. You don't have to break laws. They treat you like drug running criminals just for being part of a small active group and are happy to ruin your life, make you lose your livelihood and become socially isolated for just daring to make political statements.
ZOG is a beast from hell and if you are pro-White you will be it's target. To fight for your people requires courage and determination. Glad to hear this account of the Euro-American contrast because we all need to unite to defeat this monster killing the West.
Thank you for your interest and observations. I too lived in Europe for five years. I was principally a revisionist interested in helping Germans. I also like the identitarian movement. I don't consider myself fascist, however. I am clinging onto a classical definition of being left without all the kookinees that Intel has turned it into. Since for you fascism is a valuable and positive thing, perhaps you can tell me what those features are. I am pretty extreme into conspiracy and my understanding is that fascism and communism, which were the archytipal European antipodes during World War II, are actually funded by the same people, an example of the classical controlled opposition dialectic. You may not see it that way, but that's fine. I am for the preservation and prospering of all the European peoples and people of European heritage throughout what is known as the West. Our main problem I think is international Jewry has basically taken the reins of power of all of our nations. I would like to abandon using words like left and right because I think they are polarizing. Richard Spencer, I'm pretty sure, was a mole in the alt-right movement. I can send you more information on that if you'd like. The Patriot front is definitely an FBI manufactured group. Again, thank you for your article. Your observations about Americans being focused on online activities rather than building a subculture I think is you're strongest point. I'm currently in Milwaukee and I have been battling what I call the fake left here.